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Post by betsyw 15th February 2013, 12:28

I certainly think we could bet, using imaginary rose petals . I will wager 20 rose petals to 1 rose petal that this rose is going to be 1) a sluggish bloomer and 2) a spotter. I am betting against this one, even though I'm buying it.

So there you are. I'll give those who have faith in BC very decent odds of 20-1. Any takers?
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Post by maree 15th February 2013, 12:43

Yep , your on Betsy , i'll bet against you , being a eternal optimist , and i'll say it will make it out of its pot and into my garden bed within 8 months of receiving it, now what odds is that , i always get mixed up with odds , haven't got a TAB screen in front of me ..
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Post by betsyw 15th February 2013, 12:49

Well, how many rose petals are you willing to risk, maree? ;-))))) At 20-1, you might consider:

Your 5 rose petals to my 100 rose petals
your 10 rose petals to my 200 petals

and so on...

Come in, spinner Bad
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Post by maree 15th February 2013, 12:57

I'll go for broke Betsy , so i guess my , gulp , 10 , gulp , rose petals lol
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Post by betsyw 15th February 2013, 13:00

Your bet has been tabulated.
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Post by maree 15th February 2013, 13:06

Any late scratching on this bet Betsy? i did email Silkies and ask for some info on this rose , haven't heard anything yet , but that doesn't mean anything , they could just have been too busy lol ...
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Post by The Lazy Rosarian 15th February 2013, 16:31

Ok ladies, I work in the wine industry, You think it hard with roses that smell like citrus. Try your Shiraz for instance, on what I reckon of the chocolate wheel the winemaker has it as strawberry, citrus, blackberry, olive, carrot or whatever. To me it tastes like Shiraz grape.
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Post by betsyw 15th February 2013, 17:01

LOLOLOLOLOL

I do think that several New Zealand whites taste very distinctly of grapefruit, though. Perhaps I am being stalked by a citrus tree.
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Post by silkyfizz 15th February 2013, 18:35

Hey Maree, if you win your bet that's 200 rose petals. equivalent of a whole bush!! Good way to restock I reckon. Lol. Mind you probabilities are with Betsy. It will be interesting to see the outcome down the track.

Guess what I bought today? Jubilee Celebration! She just waved and waved then jumped into my arms. Visited the nursery and had a wander, picking up some perennials, and there she was. Love at first sight. Also got Darcy Bussell, which was probably a mistake, but what the heck, sometimes it's nice to throw caution to the wind. How big did your JC get Maree? my information says medium. It has several flowers on it, just beautiful, I couldn't resist.
Anyone have Darcy Bussell? Supposed to be short but growth in pot looks like it will be taller than "short, compact".
Ha! So much for that carefully compiled list, that I've sweated over for weeks. Shot to hell already. Lol

BTW re Tournament of Roses, which Ozeboy mentioned earlier. I planted this in my garden years ago, it was supposed to be fantastic. I found its pink flowers dead set boring. Just goes to show how we are all different and want different things from our roses.
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Post by maree 15th February 2013, 18:59

Good on you Silky, well done , Jubilee Celebration grew to a medium sized bush and i felt like a murderer when i pulled her out , but this year she's coming back , could you smell a fragrance on her Silky ? Let me know how she goes for you , i had her in full sun , i did read somewhere partial shade is best , dunno . 200 rose petals wow , bets on , this rose had better be a bloody good one , or else i'm $50.00 and 200 petals down lol !!
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Post by betsyw 15th February 2013, 19:07

I'll bet 100 rose petals that Ms Bussell is going to be a winner for you, silky. One of THE most exqusitely shaped and bloomiforous young plants I have ever seen at a garden nursery. It actuallyout-swing-tagged its DA swing tag. A customer nearer to the rose grabbed it straight away, or I would have taken it without further ado or research. Unforgettable looking thing.

I'll be really really interested to hear how you rate it for form and abundance against Munstead Wood....
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Post by silkyfizz 15th February 2013, 19:14

Loved JC's fragrance at first sniff Maree, rich but fresh, strong enough to waft I'm hoping. Flowers currently look a bit Abraham Darby shade but the picture in magic Gardens is much brighter. Maybe summer sun washes her out. Maybe the partial shade you mention is a means to intensify flower colour. I don't care what colour she is, I love her already. Of course your high recommendations for her made me stop and look and sniff. Thanks Maree!

Darcy Bussell Whoo hoo!! that's very encouraging Maree. I'm happy now and will just enjoy her. She hasn't got any flowers on her at the moment so I'm looking forward to seeing her in real life as opposed to pix. Will let you know how they go.
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Post by maree 15th February 2013, 22:31

Silky , you'r probably right , full sun could fade JCs petals a bit , i read the partial shade bit somewhere , when i was doing a search on it , looking for the right spot for her , Darcy is Betsy's recommendation , i don't have that one , but it certainly sounds good , good luck with them Silky ...
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Post by silkyfizz 15th February 2013, 22:50

Sorry Betsy, got muddled up, but you have put my mind at rest re Darcy.
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Post by maree 17th February 2013, 12:00

Betsy , i'm that convinced that Black Caviar rose is going to be a winner , i'll double the bets ,not sure how you do it cause at the races ,my other passion , i just go wins and places , but anyway i'm so convinced cause Black Caviar won yesterday , a good good omen yeh !!!
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Post by betsyw 17th February 2013, 12:10

Okay, you are now in for 20 rp to 400rp.

Black Caviar (the horse) is so good that she's not even racing the field, she's racing against the course itself. She broke the record for the track yesterday.

Black Caviar (the rose) is so unknown that the only info on it is a solitary pic of a solitary red flower, and the blurb promise of honey jasmine vanilla scent, all provided by the diustributor. I'm looking forward to making lotsa potpourri ;-))
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Post by silkyfizz 17th February 2013, 12:21

Maree I hope for your sake BC is indeed a winner. It would be sad if a dud rose was named for such an outstanding champion. She broke the track record and hardly raised a sweat.
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Post by maree 17th February 2013, 12:38

Lol ha ha , Betsy and Silky , theres a sucker born everyday and i could just be it lol , and if you knew my win/loss history at the races , you'd have to say , well pay up now lol ,never mind just like at the races i'll always back the roughie , just thinking i better start saving my rose petals lol !!! or it could be a WINNER !!!!
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Post by silkyfizz 17th February 2013, 12:42

Haha, as they say at the races, never tear up your ticket til the race is over and correct weight has been declared! Gotta be positive Maree, this could be your "Get out stakes"!
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Post by betsyw 17th February 2013, 12:50

Silky, I think you should put your money where your keyboard is ;-))) C'mon, you know you want to order Black Caviar ...
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Post by silkyfizz 17th February 2013, 12:59

LOL, I'm a canny punter Betsy and have been known to innocently sidle up to owners and trainers and eavesdrop. A blank look is best while staring into the middle distance. This is just the same! Innocent
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Post by maree 17th February 2013, 13:59

Positive i am Silky , 400 rose petals Betsy, yep that sounds good !!
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Post by The Lazy Rosarian 17th February 2013, 15:52

Ok, who is selling the rose and have they been asked, who bred it. Question
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Post by betsyw 17th February 2013, 17:15

See page 1 and 2 of this thread.

Maree has ordered from silkies in Vic [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

And the rose is being promoted at Knights in SA [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Marre has asked Silkies for more info.

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Post by RosyTeesh 17th February 2013, 18:53

Let me know how it goes Maree Smile
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