New 2011 purchases

Any of the delbards range love our climate, I bought wholes range 2yrs ago this winter.And then never failed to bring a smile to my face.

About face - swanes (down side no perfume)
New Icegirl - loves it here. 5 star
Tienke
Ian Thorpe
KArdinal
Love in
Largerfield
My all time favorite Marchin Konnigan - 5 star
(strikes really well from cutting and grafts easy
Gold Medal
Guitare
Portrait
Newcastle City
Atomic Blonde
Forklore
Elina
Children Rose
I only have a few David austins, Smooth buttercup, graeme thomas, jude of obscure and a lovely old apricot DA which my mum doesnot know its name.
Parole
William Morris
FAirest Cape, very healthy but only flushes in spring here. Im a little disappointed in it.
If any one has any brindabellas they would like to trail i can buy them for $17 as long as i buy 30 I m more then happy to pass them on at this price if u pay the postage.

But i really believe Delbards version of the majority of Brindabella's roses are far superior.

Im smiling as we had rain over night and gives me a little extra time do some crossing.
Brindabella Bouquet/ Henri Matteis, and the old world pink tea i have.
trying to get a good orange rose, any suggestions on parentage of a good orange hip producer?

Woops forgot Grand Amore

Im happy to send cutting of any that are not protected. And any protected as long as they are for your garden personal use i think i can send them with out upsetting anyone.

Sonya, do you mean the Delbards are better than Brindabellas re disease resistance etc.? I think I mentioned before I just bought my first Delbard, Paris 2000. Love the flowers to bits, but it got BS 5 minutes after I planted it. I don't spray, so time will tell if it stays.

I think Delbards rose bar brindabella bouq are more disease resistance and vigourous. Paris does get bs here and Paul cizan the rest are pretty clean. My back yard looks healthy and full of colour from the delbards at present.
We have Joy , Brindabella Bouq, Blaze, Goldie, Yellow Tiger, Gold tiger, pink tiger, Magnifecent, sammy g, Red winner and red excel,

Bouq is vigorous, Blaze is OK rest have BS, I dont spray for it either. Parole is far better on DR then magnificent in our climate and a bigger flower.

Just a small order for me this year.

Aimee Vibert (the one I got last year is SO NOT Aimee... !! I will post it later in the What am I section. I think it's Wedding Day haha)
Gertrude Jekyll
Dainty Bess Clg
Agnes
Graham Thomas
Duchesse de Brabant
Blanc Double de Coubert
Summer Song (this kept catching my eye while I was in the UK last year)

Now, if only I could keep the grass down and give them enough food they will hopefully grow faster than some of the previous...

Wedding day will grow even through the grass no water etc, very unloved and it has taken over the middle of my back yard. Time to relocate it.

sonya wrote:Wedding day will grow even through the grass no water etc, very unloved and it has taken over the middle of my back yard. Time to relocate it.

Hehe. Yeah. This is one big reason why I have this rose pegged as 'Wedding Day' - I have one a *long* way away from the house haha. The amount of growth in 12 mths...!!!

sonya, 'Apricot Passion'

As well as the ones listed in the opening thread ('Carabella', 'Purple Rain', 'Freycinet', 'Playboy', 'Borderer', and 'Golden Vision')... I have added a few more to the list and removed some too. I've removed 'Carabella' because the cuttings from Dave have struck and so I'll have about 6 plants of it (touch wood *taps head*) and replaced it with the hybrid rugosa 'Ann Hall' from MD.

So, I've added to the list from Thomas for Roses and got gigantea, 'Rosa chinensis minima', 'Dresden Doll', 'Fairy Changling', and Rosa davidii var. elongata.

Thanks to Damian, Lyn (Florist), and another online friend of mine and Dave C, there are quite a lot of freebies in teh form of cuttings that seem to be doing well as well including Rosa fedtschenkoana, Rosa arkansana, Red Magic Carpet, Orangeade, 4th of July and a few others that I can't recall off the top of my head

With regard to 'Wedding Day' there is another rose around that is very similar called Rosa longicuspis var. sinowilsonii that I have been distrubuting to a few people. 'Wedding Day' is meant to be a seedling of it. Here is one of the photos of mine I uploaded to HMF: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] . The leaves are truly enormous as is the plant (and Bruce, I've recently noticed that it suckers too so keep an eye on the one I sent you... BTW great to see you back posting. I take it all went well?). Both 'Wedding Day' and sinowilsonii will climb your leg if you stand still long enough and have terrible thorns (but beautiful flowers and foliage... even trade IMO).

I have finally made my decisions. Purchasing from Mistydowns and Treloars.
Aimee Vibert - this is my second one. The first one was left to languish in a pot and has not done so well in the ground.
Comtesse Vandal
Jean Ducher - Larry's pics did the job on me. Hopefully she will like me as much.
Mrs Dudley Cross - I am getting less fond of thorns and prickles.
Mrs Herbert Stevens - I love nodding roses. She always looks very elegant in the botanic gardens.
Pat Austin - love the colour and she struggles on quite well in my conditions.
3 x Munstead Wood - Hoping this one is as good as everyone says. William Shakespeare 2000 does surprisingly well for me, I hope this is the case with Munstead Wood as well.
Summer Memories - sucker for those very full blooms
4ft weeping Our Rose Carpet - What can I say, i don't know why I have done this, hopefully it is not a complete disaster.

Thanks to some enablers here I went to Golden Vale nursery and "rescued" some potted roses from the Closing Down Sale today.

My haul was:
Roseraie de l'Hay
Nevada
Mme Lombard
City of Benalla
Tuscany Superb
Rubens

Now I just have to figure out WHERE to put them since my Mistydowns and Treloars orders will be here in a month or so as well!!

I added another three as well......

City Of Newcastle (HT)

Violina (HT)

Maurice Utrillo (Flor).....

now to get them growing for showing in October....

Wendy, just send them to my place

Hi AD,

You have some beautiful roses in you list of 'recues'. A few notes on your acquisitions.

'Roseraie de l'Hay', 'Nevada', and 'Tuscany' will sucker wildly on their own roots. If you bury the graft on these ones they will consider that a signal to start suckering. I quite like this trait but a lot of people find it annoying. You'll need to watch out for it, however, and make allowances for it. My 'Tuscany' suckers quite profusely and I end up with about 7-8 separate suckers each season coming up a good metre away from the parent plant. The 'Nevada' plants at work are grafted and so haven't suckered but the plants are quite large, reaching about 10ft high and 6ft wide. 'RdLH' gets quite large too.

I assume by 'Rubens' you mean the Tea? It looks like a beautiful rose. Might make a good breeder too.

My first order arrived last Friday. 'Purple Rain', 'Freycinet', 'Playboy', and 'Double Knockout'. Also somehow finding their way home were 'La Sevilana', and 'Summer Memories'. I got a nice package today of cuttings from Patricia Routley in WA including 'Mrs Val Nash', 'Tarrawara', 'Alain Blanchard', and one I have not heard of before they are calling 'Wilson St Nanup'. Not sure what it is yet but is another one of the foundlings Patricia is so expert in tracking down. If you are watching, Patricia, thanks again. I can hardly wait for them to take I'm particularly looking forward to 'Alain Blachard' and 'Tarrawarra'

Only two more orders to arrive

Thanks for those comments Simon. I was encouraged to plant them to cover the graft - so that they *could* strike their own roots. (Philip said they would last longer because you didn't have to worry about the graft giving out in 20 or so years time. Sounded reasonable.)
I saw 'Nevada' in the UK. Didn't perhaps realise it would get *so* big although it was about 6' high over there. Obviously pruned...!!
I'll be thinking hard about where to put them now... hmmmm
How will they handle the wind??

And yes, the 'Rubens' is the Tea. Hadn't really heard of it, was looking for Mme Lombard and Monsieur Tillier actually. (Didn't do too badly. )

Dave - don't worry, I left a couple for you.

A bit far to travel for some pots, will ring instead. Their email is not working.

Phillip is right... in general... but burrying the graft on those three will encourage suckering. Like I said, I don't actually mind this and do it myself too. It gives me a chane to dig them up and pass them on to friends I have 'Charles de Mills', 'Tuscany' and 'Tuscany Superb' all growing together in a thicket and it is getting harder to tell which is which... I really like that. Rugosa suckering varies. I have rugosa seedlings growing own root in the garden and so far none have suckered. Meryl has a 'Frau Dagmar Hastrupp' seedling and it suckers. My FDH seedlings haven't suckered after 3 years in the ground, nor has my 'Ann Endt' seedling, or my 'Scabrosa' seedlings... pretty sure all of them will with time though. 'Tuscany' suckers like crazy. 'Tuscany Superb', which is grafted, hasn't suckered yet.

Regarding 'Nevada'... check out [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] and [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] . I estimate the first one ot be about 10ft tall if the stake at its base is about a foot tall (guessing). It is meant to be a hybrid moyesii but the suckering and the shape of the hips suggest it is a hybrid spinossisima.

Those pics of 'Nevada' make me think that the location I have chosen for it will be just right... (to give a bit of wind protection to a young cherry tree). It can get as big as it wants there. I might not bury the graft - I think I'll let the soil gradually build up...!

RdLH - won't matter if it suckers.

FDH - next time.... !! (It's on The List)

Just as an aside: it's feasible that a Near Death Experience will stimulate them to go suckering isn't it?

Don't know - I know when I shovel prune roses grafted to Dr Phooey the roots keep suckering for years. I've got 'Nevada' cuttings i now... am hoping it will grow into a nice big dense shrub like in the first link. I don't care if it suckers cos I will just pull them out, pot them up and pass them around.

Wendy... links to MME Lombard and M. Tillier:
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Ohhhh.. very pretty. Thanks for those links Simon.
Monsieur Tillier is now on The List for next time. (After I work out where to put the current lot. ooops.)

If that is the price on Ebay plus $19.00 postage, it comes to $38.00, to me that makes them rather dear, surely they could be purchased from other nurseries cheaper.
The other thing I went to their site and I could not find any pricing, strange, I guess you have to ask.

Simon, I have been looking at your list of new roses, I can't find 3, Freycinet, Double Knockout, Summer Memories. Which nursery sells them.

Treloar Roses do, David They are all on HMF.

David,

I guess if you are only buying one rose, $38 might seem a little high, but I generally try to look for multiple roses that I'm after and buy them in batches. I just bought three roses through their Ebay shop (MME Lambard, Climbing Devoniensis, and Rosa duponitii) and it is much more economical and competitively priced that way. For instance, I bought 4 roses from Treloars, whose postage came to $15 and whose maximum price, per rose, was $17.50. This is much bigger operation and to my way of thinking, along the economies of scale lines, the difference could be much larger, if you get my drift, and I like to support the new-up-and-coming Australia specialst rose nurseries. It's all a matter of perspective isn't it