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Post by Poesie 30th October 2012, 05:08

Slovenia, 29.october,
First some young tea roses:

Tea - Homere
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Tea - White Maman Cochet
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Tea Adam reminds me of Blossomtime
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Tea - Mademoiselle Francisca Krüger
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Tea - Catherine Mermet
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Tea - Archiduck Joseph
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Tea - Rosette Delizy
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Noisette -Celine Forestier
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Jubilee Celebration
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Graham Thomas
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L.D.Braithwaite
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Crown Princess Margaret
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Abraham Darby
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Burgundy Iceberg
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Astrid Grafin von Hardenberg
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Rhapsody in Blue
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Hulthemia Eyes for you, very healthy rose
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Post by The Lazy Rosarian 30th October 2012, 06:00

Irena, where does one start, so many lovely roses. From 'Adam to Astrid'. 'Astrid Grafin Von Hardenberg' is beautiful. I will have to check that one out
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Post by betsyw 30th October 2012, 11:31

Oh Poesie, I love your garden as much as your roses. It looks so captivatingly ancient, so charming, the door, the stone steps, the cascades of green. You seem to be having great results with your Austiins - right conditions, clealry.The contemporary Eyes for You looks incredibly apt and even lilke a classic in your garden, too.
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Post by Jac2 30th October 2012, 19:50

What a wonderful Tea and Austin collection! I can see from your Austins, you’re going for the fragrant ones; can I infer that all your Teas are fragrant, too? I’m planning to get more Teas and wondered if there were any in your collection that have a particularly strong fragrance? They’re all so beautiful, and I really like Celine Forestier, too. Very, very nice, Poesie, thank you for sharing them …
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Post by maree 30th October 2012, 20:00

Poesie , what a absolutely beautiful garden and beautiful roses , well done , i'm very envious , i must say !!!!!!!!
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Post by silkyfizz 30th October 2012, 21:45

Poesie, congratulations on creating such a beautiful and charming garden. Your roses are looking healthy and happy. No wonder, I think I would be too if I could enjoy such beauty and grace. Fabulous! Thank you.
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Post by Poesie 1st November 2012, 08:50

Thank you for your comments.
Roseman, Astrid Grafin Von Hardenberg has wonderfull fragrance but it's upright, torny and not a bushy rose. The blooms have good rain resistance and colour is special.
Tea roses are very different. They are very sensitive to rain and hot summers. It doesn't surprise me that the hybrid teas, which are usually less sensitive, were breed later. The most sensitive to rain are White Maman Cochet and Marie Van Houte. Fragrance is very mild of all my teas except Rosette Delizzy and Archiduck Joseph. But this fragrance isn't as strong as that of Austin's.
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Post by Jac2 1st November 2012, 11:33

Poesie, I have an Archiduc Joseph, which goes under Monseur Tiller here in Australia and is the sole reason as to why I’m so keen on getting more Teas; I was over the moon when it first bloomed and it's still doing very well in the QLD heat (but it's not December yet, so I have to wait and see). I’ve taken the White Maman Cochet off my list and replaced it with Rosette Delizzy; thanks for the tip.
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Post by Balinbear 1st November 2012, 14:04

Jckie

Hate to through you into a spin.

I don't know whether its the heat or what but our White Maman Cochet and Marie Van Houtte flower a lot better than Rozette de Lizy which of late has tended to ball in our wet and humid weather.

Climbing White Maman Cochet. (The Shrub also flowers this well)
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Post by Balinbear 1st November 2012, 14:10

Poesie

Its funny. We grow teas because they can stand the heat and humidity better than other varieties. Most Hybrid Teas are simply blackspot magnets where we live while the teas (well most of them) are quite happy with the conditions.

We don't spray and generally have very acidic soil may also affect the growth of the more tender Hybrid Teas.

Noisettes, chinas and hybrid musks also seem to do ok where we live.

Have a look at what we can grow

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Post by Balinbear 1st November 2012, 14:13

Jackie

I meant to say the phots were taken late November last year.

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Post by Poesie 1st November 2012, 21:15

I can't say for others, but my teas are beautiful in good conditions in the spring or autumn (without rain). Today it's raining and here are some pictures. And yes, also Rosette Delizy looks very sad and has tended to ball.

Marie Van Houtte
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Rosette Delizy
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White Maman Cochet
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But this is nature. For some a few meters far from the rain is good.
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...also don't forget that teas have special old charm and that they are beautiful when conditions are good.

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Post by Jac2 1st November 2012, 21:25

Ahh, look at them Gary, your photos and garden are a real treat and especially those blooms in late November. Yes, I’m definitely spinning: my Tea list has blown out, and every bit of information helps. At one stage my whole 2013 order consisted of Teas.
There’re two Marie Teas, the Van Houtte and a Lambert and I had both of them on my list. The lighter colours appeal … Rozette de Lizy I thought would be a bit awkward to place with her vibrant colours, but if the fragrance were outstanding, I’d design an area especially around her. I’ll keep them all on the list for now.

Poesie, just when I slowed down spinning, you’re giving me another push …
Those photos certainly show a lot and Rosette Delizy’s colours are not as bright as some photos I saw suggest. I better save a copy of this link to take another look before I place my order next year, thanks.
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Post by Bonita18 1st November 2012, 22:12

Here are some of my roses in last autumn
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Cousin Essie is an Australian bred Hybrid Musk which is equally beautiful when it carries its hips
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Penelope Tea 1906

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Post by Jac2 2nd November 2012, 19:57

That green rose intrigues me; does it have a fragrance, Bonita? What a novelty …
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Post by neptune 2nd November 2012, 20:08

Within our Rose society, we call the green one "brocculi".......
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Post by Bonita18 2nd November 2012, 22:15

No it does not have fragrance. It is passed around by cuttings as it does not have any reproductive organs. Some people say it is a mutation of Old Blush which is one of the four stud chinas that brougfht repeat flowering in to the European breeding lines. Anyone out there who does not agree with my story please correct me. We had a landscape designer enthusiastically remark: That green rose would look wonderful in large white saucer shaped pots outside a minimalist modern home!" Other people hate it but the florists love it as something that provides unusual foliage in an arrangement. In the heat of summer its flowers are a more rusty colour.

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Post by Jac2 2nd November 2012, 22:44

Very interesting, Bonita, I like it even without a fragrance …
I happen to read a copy of ‘A Rose by Any Name’ at the moment and the green rose is actually featured: “Documentary evidence suggests that, even though it is classed as a China rose, R. chinensis, ‘Viridiflora’ may have originated in South Carolina or Georgia. Buist’s first specimens came from stock acquired in Charleston in 1833. …” The authors go on following the rose’s path to France where people were disgusted by it “a green eyed monster like this is not inviting”. I think I should have one …
Your picture is much nicer than the one in the book, which I think is only a plate.
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Post by Bonita18 2nd November 2012, 23:00

No - no perfume I am afraid

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Post by Jac2 2nd November 2012, 23:03

That’s OK, this one is so curious that it doesn’t need a perfume. Are you happy with it?
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Post by Bonita18 2nd November 2012, 23:21

Yes but then I am pretty inclusive now that I live on acreage. It is a bit like a house with too many storage cupboards - you hoard.
However, it grows to about thigh high at my place and as it is cutting grown throws out a lot shoots. It looks lopsided at present as I cut quite a bit for the last rose display in October. I give guttings - send me a PM if you wish to get some from me sometime.

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Post by Jac2 2nd November 2012, 23:34

zippediduda, zippediè!
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