OTHELLO- FRAGRANT CHARM- JAMES VEITCH- FISHERMANS FRIEND- CHARLES R MACINTOSH- GRAHAM THOMAS- LAVENDER DREAM- BLACKBERRY NIP- MARGARET MERRIL- JOHN CLARE- BROTHER CADFAEL

OTHELLO
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FRAGRANT CHARM
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JAMES VEITCH
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FISHERMANS FRIEND
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CHARLES R MACINTOSH
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GRAHAM THOMAS
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LAVENDER DREAM
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BLACKBERRY NIP
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MARGARET MERRIL
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JOHN CLARE
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BROTHER CADFAEL
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Dan, tell me about 'James Veitch' please, I know the rose but do not have it.

roseman wrote:Dan, tell me about 'James Veitch' please, I know the rose but do not have it.

david,

i have had james veitch for three years , at first he struggled to get some growth and had a touch of BS to begin with . it has cleanned up very well and it is twice the size now , i am very impressed with this rose .. lovely blooms and beautiful foliage.. as far as the scent goes . WOW very fragrant . it almost smells like roseraie de l'hay

love this rose david

Your place must be looking like a rose paradise Jordan. How do you find the growth and health of Fisherman's Friend? I've had my eye on this one for a while. Is it gangly, overly thorny?

Fisherman's Friend is FIENDISHLY THORNY.
Can't comment on the growth - it's doing just as badly as everything else in that area of the garden...

silkyfizz wrote:Your place must be looking like a rose paradise Jordan. How do you find the growth and health of Fisherman's Friend? I've had my eye on this one for a while. Is it gangly, overly thorny?

hi silky,

let me warn you about FF, it is very thorny lol.. fragrance is on the medium side mainly in the morning it sends its fragrance well at least the one i have here , it has repeated several times for me , it needs a good feed now and then to perform well , on the disease side its been okay , had no dramas . the blooms are glorious , very dark and very fluffy

hope this helps silky

Thanks Jordan and Autumn, that's very helpful. One of my (many) pet aversions is ultra thorny roses. Even glorious flowers don't even up the scales. If I was on a country property with heaps of space, fine, but in suburbia plants should be well mannered and benign IMO. Sorry FF, although my attraction has evaporated, you are still a fine looking fellow.

ah well more room for another dark austin rose without the thorns silky

lol

Yeah Jordan, problem is finding THE PERFECT ONE!! Lol. Any suggestions? Beautiful large flowers that stay awhile, bushy, no octopus arms and of course drenching perfume.

try the squire silky

Dunno Dan, I find The Squire reasonably thorny (not as bad as Fishermen's Friend).

wendy, yeah its a bit thorny but nowhere near as fisher

Normal type thorns I accept as part of the rose, it's the ultra thorny ones I just can't abide in my garden. I have enough ripped clothing and scratches already without inviting in rapacious marauder. I've heard the squire is a bit sparse on foliage, would that be correct?

silky, not mine , not sure about others opinions