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Post by jordan71 24th April 2012, 22:49

hi guys , i want most of the roses that listed here , please if you grow any of them, your opinions would be great , the good the bad and the ugly

thanks

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Gertrude Jekyll

Evelyn

leander

Miss Alice

Molineux

Pat Austin

Pretty Jessica

Shropshire Lass

Brother Cadfael

Teasing Georgia

The Countryman

The Mayflower

The Prince

Wenlock

William Morris

William Shakespeare 2000

Winchester Cathedral

Radio Times

The Alnwick® Rose

Jude The Obscure


Golden Celebration

Munstead Wood
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Post by The Lazy Rosarian 25th April 2012, 08:15

Jordan, have checked the size of some of them. Leander is huge, in DA's English catalogue he has given it it's own group,they are large plants leading to climbers. Might pay to check all thier sizes, if they are going into pots.
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Post by jordan71 25th April 2012, 08:22

yes david i am considering that thanks
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Post by AutumnDamask 25th April 2012, 13:00

I have The Alnwick Rose in a half wine barrel. Used to have Evelyn in a large-ish pot but it wasn't really happy there. Jude the Obscure can get pretty big too.
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Post by Balinbear 25th April 2012, 18:11

Teasing Georia get largish up here but may be a bit better in a pot.
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Post by jordan71 26th April 2012, 20:10

thanks for all the info so far guys
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Post by The Estate 27th April 2012, 14:23

Teasing Georgia, a MUST, Golden Celebration a MUST and Pat Austin.

I also have a few others , the above a great repeat bloomers and seem to be disease free also Very Happy
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Post by jordan71 27th April 2012, 16:09

The Estate wrote:Teasing Georgia, a MUST, Golden Celebration a MUST and Pat Austin.

I also have a few others , the above a great repeat bloomers and seem to be disease free also Very Happy

one that i'm after , is pretty jessica . should be able to get it by june- july
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Post by OzRose 27th April 2012, 17:58

I have tried Pretty Jessica twice because it has the most glorious perfume but have lost it both times during the summer.
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Post by jordan71 27th April 2012, 17:59

OzRose wrote:I have tried Pretty Jessica twice because it has the most glorious perfume but have lost it both times during the summer.
i'm sorry to hear that , i suppose it didn't like the heat?
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Post by Ozeboy 28th April 2012, 18:41

Jordan71, don't be upset if you lose some of the DA's for they seen to be cool dry weather roses. I have given up on them due to excessive dieback. Some make it OK but you can count those on one hand.
It's a shame really for they are very beautiful grown for the old rose look and Damask like fragrances. I am sure the breeder would concentrate more on health having bred in all those other good attrabutes. Alas we have a used by date and I hear David Austin is battling cancer. I'm sure everyone growing roses wish him well and like to see him one day listed on the Rose Hall of Fame , (Is there such a thing?)

Rita who posts here when time permits has fantastic DA's in her Sydney garden. After visiting her garden it makes one think about trying to grow them again.

I had a call from a guy in The McKay, Queensland area who sings the praises of Reithmuller and Tea roses for his climate.

You might be able to grow those DA's down south without special attention. Best of luck and get those roses planted into the ground as soon as possible.

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Post by Guest 28th April 2012, 19:11

You should see how some Austins grow here in my country, Charles Austin can grow to the height of 7ft ++ and as its offspring

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Post by The Lazy Rosarian 29th April 2012, 07:40

They say "horses for courses", what grows for one might not grow for others.
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Post by Ozeboy 29th April 2012, 11:06

I hear good reports from growers in the drier climates such as
Wastern Australia and inland areas such as Deniilquin and Mudgee.
That's one of the reasons why some HT's I sent to David have grown very well despite being hopeless on the coast. The DA's can grow to 7'6" here but suffer up to 50% cane dieback yearly.

I'm trialing my seedlings at Mona Vale right on the coast just 500 meters from the open surf. I'm sure Gary up in Queensland would give a good assment of a roses health He's pretty well right at the middle of the east coast where the greater number of people live.

I have a nursry man friend in lower Qld supplying plants but no roses. His advice to customers is roses won't do well here so he doesn't stock them. Pity he hasn't heard of Tea's, Noisettes China's and Riethmuller roses. Unfortunatly most of these roses are too large for a lot of modern home gardens. I believe the future will be tidy shrub roses, metre tall that will be healthy growing anywhere on the east coast.

David Austin is a master breeder of roses growing beautifully in low humidity UK with their roots covered in 12" of stable manure to keep their roots warm. He has achieved his goal but let all rose breeders know we need roses to suit Australia, particularly where the greater population lives, (Coastal Australia.)

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Post by Rose-Anna 29th April 2012, 19:35

In WA some of DA roses easily grow to over 3m high, so I suggest you have a look at what roses you bought and consider where you plant them.

A little good book is the Melville nurseries Handbook of Roses, which names all the different roses they sell but also how they grow in WA. The height indicated in this particular handbook is specific to WA and gives us a more accurate picture of how they will become rather then how they grow in other parts of the country.

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It is a couple of years old, but the roses still grow the same Smile
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Post by Poesie 29th April 2012, 23:41

Here in Slovenia my english roses are doing well.
-Pat Austin is reblooming non-stop and has very nice fruit fragrance, but the flowers don't last long. A must-have English rose.
-Teasing Georgia is a monster and needs a lot of space, maybe it will reblom better in it's second year.
-WS2000 is beautiful, healthy foliage, strong fragrance, reblooming still not very good. I reccomend it.
-Winchester Cathedral, I will see this year, because it's its first spring
-The Alnwick Rose is beautiful, not wide, but the rebloom isn't so fast as I wished it would be. And it's sadly almost without fragrance.
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Post by Ozeboy 30th April 2012, 01:52

Rose-Anna, lucky you because you have the climate to grow them,
DRY, low humidity.
I have an interest in most things to do with nature and beekeeping is one of those interesting persuits. I only have 5 hives now but have had up to 35. It's important to have quality pollen and nectar available as often as possible. One year I decided to bring in about 8 varieties of Western Australian Eucalyptus in tube stocks. Rose or Flower of of the West was one and another Bushy Yates. All were a complete failure despite placing them in rather light soil at the back of my few acres.
They all looked like they had some terrible disease or being attacked by bugs.
My post made reference to the East Coast climate.

The morale of the story is, plant what will grow in your climate.

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Post by jordan71 30th April 2012, 07:03

Ozeboy wrote:Jordan71, don't be upset if you lose some of the DA's for they seen to be cool dry weather roses. I have given up on them due to excessive dieback. Some make it OK but you can count those on one hand.
It's a shame really for they are very beautiful grown for the old rose look and Damask like fragrances. I am sure the breeder would concentrate more on health having bred in all those other good attrabutes. Alas we have a used by date and I hear David Austin is battling cancer. I'm sure everyone growing roses wish him well and like to see him one day listed on the Rose Hall of Fame , (Is there such a thing?)

Rita who posts here when time permits has fantastic DA's in her Sydney garden. After visiting her garden it makes one think about trying to grow them again.

I had a call from a guy in The McKay, Queensland area who sings the praises of Reithmuller and Tea roses for his climate.

You might be able to grow those DA's down south without special attention. Best of luck and get those roses planted into the ground as soon as possible.

thanks ozeboy. hope i have some luck with my DA
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