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Sowing some seeds
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Sowing some seeds
Encouraged by Simon and Bemo I have separated some seeds from their hips and I am about to chill them for a month.
They are off a Kordes shrub rose called Temptress, aka Korramalu and Roter Korsar released in 2004.
I received this rose as a freebie with my order last winter from Treloars. It is vigorous, disease-free and free flowering. No perfume though. I am very impressed with it, so when it produced a heap of shiney, bright red hips I decided to see if I can grow them.
Does anyone know where I can find its parentage? There is nothing in HMF. Can I read somewhere the registration details of this rose? I expect the parentage would be stated there.
They are off a Kordes shrub rose called Temptress, aka Korramalu and Roter Korsar released in 2004.
I received this rose as a freebie with my order last winter from Treloars. It is vigorous, disease-free and free flowering. No perfume though. I am very impressed with it, so when it produced a heap of shiney, bright red hips I decided to see if I can grow them.
Does anyone know where I can find its parentage? There is nothing in HMF. Can I read somewhere the registration details of this rose? I expect the parentage would be stated there.
Billndee- Number of posts : 403
Location : Huon Valley, Tasmania
Registration date : 2008-02-23
Re: Sowing some seeds
Hi Dee,
There does not seem to be any US or Australian patents on this rose. If the parentage was to be listed anywhere that's where it would be. The only other way would be to contact Kordes directly to see if they could shed some light on it.
Rose seeds are starting to germinate here at the moment Dee... I sowed 24 Baby Faraux seeds, 91 Papageno seeds, and 56 Gold Coin seeds today because they had started to germinate in the fridge and about 2 weeks ago I sowed a few hundred multiflora seeds that have started to pop their heads up I noticed tonight (I will cull them down to one or two plants for use as virus free understocks). Paul Barden doesn't take the seeds out of the hips before stratification any more. He just cuts the hips off and puts them in a bag in the fridge. After about 8 weeks he takes them out, removes the seeds and sows them directly. Has it been real cold down there? It hasn't been overly cold here lately. I'm thinking that if your hips have been on the bush during this part of winter then they may not need so much time in the fridge. I would put them in now and then start checking them after 3-4 weeks to see if they have started germinating just in case. If not I would leave them 8 weeks in the fridge.
Exciting times... next we'll have you performing planned crosses!!! And THEN Tasmania will take over the world MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA
There does not seem to be any US or Australian patents on this rose. If the parentage was to be listed anywhere that's where it would be. The only other way would be to contact Kordes directly to see if they could shed some light on it.
Rose seeds are starting to germinate here at the moment Dee... I sowed 24 Baby Faraux seeds, 91 Papageno seeds, and 56 Gold Coin seeds today because they had started to germinate in the fridge and about 2 weeks ago I sowed a few hundred multiflora seeds that have started to pop their heads up I noticed tonight (I will cull them down to one or two plants for use as virus free understocks). Paul Barden doesn't take the seeds out of the hips before stratification any more. He just cuts the hips off and puts them in a bag in the fridge. After about 8 weeks he takes them out, removes the seeds and sows them directly. Has it been real cold down there? It hasn't been overly cold here lately. I'm thinking that if your hips have been on the bush during this part of winter then they may not need so much time in the fridge. I would put them in now and then start checking them after 3-4 weeks to see if they have started germinating just in case. If not I would leave them 8 weeks in the fridge.
Exciting times... next we'll have you performing planned crosses!!! And THEN Tasmania will take over the world MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Re: Sowing some seeds
Thats great Billndee, its going to be very excitting comparing all our own original rose babies and follow them as they grow older and are culled or kept.
That rose that you are impressed with and maybe doesn't have a patent or Trademark, might be a good one to grow from cuttings too.
Thanks for telling us about what Paul Barden does Simon, that makes sense to me. My FDY seeds might be starting to crack open.
That rose that you are impressed with and maybe doesn't have a patent or Trademark, might be a good one to grow from cuttings too.
Thanks for telling us about what Paul Barden does Simon, that makes sense to me. My FDY seeds might be starting to crack open.
rosemeadow- Number of posts : 902
Age : 60
Location : Exeter, Tasmania
Registration date : 2009-01-11
Re: Sowing some seeds
Simon wrote:Hi Dee,
Exciting times... next we'll have you performing planned crosses!!! And THEN Tasmania will take over the world MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA
More likely wild seedling rose bushes growing thickly everywhere will take over Tasmania!
Billndee- Number of posts : 403
Location : Huon Valley, Tasmania
Registration date : 2008-02-23
Re: Sowing some seeds
Our temperatures have been a top of 12 C and a low of -1 to +2. A lot of COOL. Failry close to our old cool room temperature when we had the cherries.
Yes rosemeadow, when my bush gets a little bigger I hope to strike some cuttings from it because I want to replace my Australian Centenary of Federation roses which suffer badly from black spot in the front garden with Temptress.
Maybe Temptress has not been patented but surely it has been registered? Is that info available to the public?
Yes rosemeadow, when my bush gets a little bigger I hope to strike some cuttings from it because I want to replace my Australian Centenary of Federation roses which suffer badly from black spot in the front garden with Temptress.
Maybe Temptress has not been patented but surely it has been registered? Is that info available to the public?
Billndee- Number of posts : 403
Location : Huon Valley, Tasmania
Registration date : 2008-02-23
Re: Sowing some seeds
It would have registered... but this has no bearing on the 'copyright' status. It only prevents someone from using the name again.
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