Fragrant Rose

Lu, what colour roses do you like? do you want a rose that will last in a vase? and have you a particular type of rose or shape of rose in mind? Carole

Heartofflush, there are thousands of roses out there but few are healthy in your area. I presume you want a Hybrid Tea which is the rose most new gardeners expect a rose to look and smell like.

Would suggest " Lady Sylvia", nice clear pink with plenty of fragrance.
" Firefighter", medium red, tall and frangrance to die for.
" Charles DeGaulle", "Big Purple" and "Blue Moon", all purples come mauves with fragrance.
All these are cutting roses and have very good vase life specially with an Aspro Clear added to the vase water.

If you would like to give an old rose a try would suggest Tea roses in your climate. Try "Mrs. B R Cant", which has become one of my favourites though there are dozens of really nice Tea roses.

Best of luck, roses are like a disease, once started there is no stopping.

IHi Heartohflush,
                          for fragrance and repeat flowering I would say a David Austin. Ozeboy  has thrown his David Austin out though because of black spot caused with the humidity in Sydney. Did you say Sceptre' d Isle grew good Ozeboy ? This rose looks very pretty with other cottage flowers and is fragrant. 
    How about Zephrine Drouhin, its a fragrant pink climber. How does it grow in Sydney, Ozeboy  ? 

Lu, A red one I like is Camp David, it has a strong fragrance and good vase life also it has long stems and I have found it to be healthy , strong and to be fast growing. Having said that my climate is probably different to yours Carole

Lu, Zephrine Druine is a great one for an archway as it has no thorns Carole

Hi Rosemeadow, really good to see you posting again. To all the members out there that have not met you, Karen is a very nice girl and has a heart of gold.

I haven't grown any of the two DA's you mentioned but have had a friend growing Sceptered Isle on the east coast and speaks well of it's disease resistence. Lu there may be other DA's that are healthy but I am yet to find one. Pity, because they have such beautiful blooms. The better roses for health seem to come from Chinese ancestors. I don't use pestercides or fungus sprays as science has proven they do great harm to your immune system.

Hi Carole
Thank you for letting me know.
I will see if ebay has this one.
I just looked it up in google and it looks really pretty too.
Do you know where I can buy this one online please
Thank you
Lu

I went looking for information about Zephrine Druineand, i found this link..

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I think I have to try and get this one too.

Is there another name for Zephrine Druine as i dont seem to be able to find it easily and am i allowed to add links to garden sites that are selling roses where some one could advise me please.
I got into trouble for doing it on site so i thought i best ask first.
thank you

Lu, Once you add the postage EBay will cost you a lot.There should be rose sellers near to you ' Also check out your Big W and Bunnings I have found that there plants are as good as any.I havn't got one of these but K Mart have some good plants, Carole

Lu, I can sell you a Zephrine Drouhin on its own roots for $5. plus postage, if you want. Its only a baby, but will be so easy to plant and if you look after it by keeping it watered, mulched and protected from anyone walking on it, it will grow into a very good climber. Other good climbers for you could be Lamarque and Blossomtime which I have as young own roots as well. Have a look on Helpmefindroses to see these roses.This last Autumn Blossomtime at my friends garden was so very beautiful, a pale pink. Lamarque is white.

Bruce, it is you with the heart of gold, my youngest daughter's wardrobe is the proof of this !!!!!
Thankyou though for you kind words and your welcome back.

Thanks Lu, it will be great to see my babies have good homes and to hear how they grow. Are you interesated in any others while we at it, if I make a list of what I have ?

Hi Rosemeadow
Yes please do make a list and i will let you know what others to buy from you.
Thank you again
Lu

Lu... I can totally recommend getting plants from Karen. I have received material from her in the past and it has been wonderfully healthy. If you get a 'Lamarque' off Karen make sure it has lots of room... it's a big one and it has a most delicious fragrance. Without a doubt one of the most beautiful roses ever. Even down here in the cold it thrives. In case you didn't know what Karen was talking about when she mentioned 'own-root' roses, these are the ones that are not grafted but are cutting grown instead. These have MANY advantages over grafted roses. For instance... I have just sent TheE a struck cutting of 'Lamarque' too because the grafted one she had was grafted onto a tall standard and it was snapped off in a storm. It would never grow back as 'Lamarque' because it was grafted. The cutting grown one, however, could recover from an injury such as this and always re-shoot as 'Lamarque'. If you have the room, try a related rose called 'Crepuscule' too. It's a lovely soft apricot colour. For fragrance 'The Children's Rose' is hard to go past too and it has, for me, been one of the more healthy roses.

On another note Karen... you know I was talking about that unknown rose I found down here that I was propagating... I think I have about three plants of it... are you still keen to try one to help me ID it?

Thanks for the recomendations of me and about ownroots, Simon, that was very nice of you. Do you mind me selling roses through your forum ?
And Yes please, I would like one of your plants if you are sure you shouldn't keep it for yourself incase you loose one or so. I will go look at where you posted about it before to see what it looked like again. Can I send you some more cuttings ?

Lu, these are the baby ownroot roses I have available.
Repeat bloomers -
Sharifa Asma,  David Austin.
Cornelia, apricot pink, thornless,  Hybred Musk 
Buff Beauty, creamy old gold, Hybred Musk
Perle D' or,  apricot, China
Souvenir D'Un Ami,  blends of pinks and salmon,  Tea rose,
Mme Alfred Carrier, white, Noisette  ( climber )
Renae, pink, thornless, Old Fashioned Climber
Titian, dark pink, Climber
Royal Highness,  light pink, Hybred Tea
Apricot Nectar, apricot, Florribunda

Once a year only bloomers -
Viollette, violet-purple, Rambler
Mme Gregoire Strechlin, pale pink & deeper reverse, Old Fashioned Climber
Mme Hardy, white, Damask
Gladsome, bright pink with white eye, Alister Clark Climber

I can email you some photos of a few of them if you want if you. You woul have to PM me and tell me your email address. 

Just go through your list carefully Karen and find the ones that are protected by a PBR. It's illegal to sell these ones unless you are the holder of the PBR. You can find out more about these ones here: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

We have a classifieds forum now just for this reason. It is important to search that PBR database and if you can't find a variety then you should try its official registered name. For example 'Mary Rose' is offically registered as 'AUSmary'. You can find these names on HMF. Enter the official registered name into the PBR database to search for it. For example 'Sharifa Asma', also known as 'AUSreef', has a current Australian PBR: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Thanks Simon. I looked in The Hedgerow catalogue and it had that Sharifa Asma was bred in 1989 and I have just rechecked the year and realised that I missed the PBR that was typed there. Thats pretty close though to 20 years though, unless it was realeased after that date.I left Sophy's Rose off my list because it was still under patent.
 The date catalogues give, is that the date it was realesed or the year it germinated ? I find that plantbreeders site you listed pretty hard to follow. I will be more careful next time, I thought I was being careful.

Karen, I suggest it's better to use the more precise variety name on your search. If you use 'Ausreef' instead of 'Sharifa Asma ' you should find the item.

carefully regards

Bernhard

Thanks Bemo, I will try that and have another go, then I can check patent properly.

It's true that plants patents last, in general, 20 years, however, U.S. patents do not offer full protection in Australia so companies will often take out multiple patents in each country their product is to be released. So, AUSreef was released by DA in 1989, however, it didn't make it to Australia until 1994 and the Australian PBR was issued 02-Jun-1997. This means its Australian 'patent' won't expire until 2017. So to be sure you should always visit that PBR database link above and search for the variety. I will put a seperate post in the hybridising section regarding plant PBR/trademarks/registered names/introductions etc as it relates to roses to go into this in more detail and assist anyone else who is wishing to breed and introduce their own roses.

Thankyou very much for that pbr database link Simon. It will come in handy. I always feel a bit guilty if I give plants to people and im not sure if that are protected or not, and just having a quick look you cant always rely on the label as they may be out of date.