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Post by dannyboy 26th September 2015, 04:07

Have used it this season to feed the roses and have been impressed with the response of the roses.A lot of growth and water shoots and buds etc in very little time.It has the added Potash in the Blood and Bone to which is a bonus.

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Post by The Lazy Rosarian 26th September 2015, 06:01

Hi Danny, how long ago did you apply it and at what rate ?
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Post by dannyboy 27th September 2015, 09:56

Hi roseman appplyed it a about a month ago at 100grams per adult plant and half for the younger roses.

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Post by The Lazy Rosarian 27th September 2015, 11:38

Thanks Danny, where was it purchased/brand, as I haven't seen it with Potash before.
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Post by neptune 27th September 2015, 15:42

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Post by dannyboy 27th September 2015, 23:06

I bought it from The B shop Roseman RichGro the company second picture thanks Neptune.

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Post by The Lazy Rosarian 28th September 2015, 06:38

Thanks Danny, will have a look at it, we have a B shop just up the road.
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Post by SueH 30th September 2015, 13:55

Danny, did you use this instead of say Sudden Impact for Roses? I'm assuming so. Also, "the B shop"!! Do you mean Bunnings?! LOL

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Post by neptune 30th September 2015, 14:33

B shop is Bunnings
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Post by dannyboy 1st October 2015, 03:55

Yes Sue I used it as my main source for the roses normally I give the them a rose speciality mix from Manutec.

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Post by SueH 1st October 2015, 13:59

Thank you Danny. I usually use Sudden Impact but it's interesting to hear of other products being used that are successful!
Thank you Neptune!! I thought it was but decided to check, just in case I'd missed something!!! OMG!!! !!! LOL

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Post by Balinbear 1st October 2015, 19:26

Make sure that the blood and bone you use has Potash added if not buy a of Potash and add it to the Blood and Bone. You only need to apply the granulated stuff once a year. You can buy liquid Potash but you need to apply it more often.

Australian soils are low on Potassium and no matter how much manure of other organic fertilizer you add it will not lift the its level.
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Post by SueH 4th October 2015, 14:29

Thank you Gary. I bought some liquid Potash and was wondering how often to apply it?
When i bought some tomato plants recently (yesterday!), I was told to add potash when the flower buds arrived. Is this right? Ooops.... sorry, off subject! Embarassed Blood and Bone for roses 1581400159 Just wanted to know from the experts!! LOL

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Post by Balinbear 4th October 2015, 18:08

Sue

Potash seems to leach out of the soil fairly quickly so you need to apply the liquid stuff fairly regularly. On the bottles is says every 2-3 weeks from before flowering until flowering finishes.

We use the granular product and have started putting it on every six months. I was talking to an long time grower and he puts granular stuff on every two months from the end of winter through to mid Autumn. He grows a lot of Austin's and has no problem with blackspot or mildew.
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Post by Balinbear 4th October 2015, 18:42

I had a look at the B Shop the other day. Most of the Blood and Bone with added potash still only has minimal amount of potash. Yates Premium NPK of 8:5:1 Richgro 8:1:1 Baileys 6:1:2 (the final figure is the Potassium).

Sudden impact rose fertilizer has a ratio of 9:4:12 which is pretty normal for rose fertilizer so I would suggest that even if you use the potash added product you look at adding some more.
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Post by neptune 5th October 2015, 01:15

Gary,
did the long time grower tell you which granulated potash he used.....was it MOP or Sop....?

MOP..muriate of potash
SOP..sulphate of potash
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Post by Balinbear 5th October 2015, 07:57

No but I would assume SOP
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Post by SueH 5th October 2015, 14:02

Thank you Guys! knew I could depend on you! I grow a few D. Austins, so I will follow you advice and add extra in the granular form, every couple of months and see how things go. Blooming Wonderful!! ....... hopefully! Smile

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Post by AutumnDamask 19th October 2015, 20:32

I only tried B&B once.
The dogs loved it.
Roses never had a chance....

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Post by Balinbear 19th October 2015, 21:49

AutumnDamask wrote:I only tried B&B once.
The dogs loved it.
Roses never had a chance....

Shock

Yeah one of ours pigged out on a whole bag (only a small bag) one night.

He loved it.
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Post by Happy roses 20th October 2015, 16:12

Balinbear wrote:
AutumnDamask wrote:I only tried B&B once.
The dogs loved it.
Roses never had a chance....

Shock

Yeah one of ours pigged out on a whole bag (only a small bag) one night.

He loved it.


Did your dog grow? Just kidding. I accidently put to much B&B in one of the pots..some of the leaves went a lighter green. I keep hosing it. Should it be ok?
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Post by Balinbear 20th October 2015, 20:23

Happy roses wrote:
Balinbear wrote:
AutumnDamask wrote:I only tried B&B once.
The dogs loved it.
Roses never had a chance....

Shock

Yeah one of ours pigged out on a whole bag (only a small bag) one night.

He loved it.


Did your dog grow? Just kidding. I accidently put to much B&B in one of the pots..some of the leaves went a lighter green. I keep hosing it. Should it be ok?
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Well he was one of the biggest German Shepherd that I have ever seen. He scared the cr** out of everyone who visited.
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Post by The Lazy Rosarian 21st October 2015, 06:39

Just to add to this topic, I found this about sprays,


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Post by Balinbear 21st October 2015, 08:37

I was talking to someone at our garden day about it and he said that the Adelaide Uni (I think that is who he said) did some tests using all the chemicals, milk etc and they found that most effective control of powdery mildew was to hose the plants with water a couple of times a day to wash the spores off.

This is in line with an old rose grower who recommended in a book (not sure which one) that overhead watering in the afternoon was the best method of control which is completely opposite to the normal recommendations so far as watering goes.

I have always said that we don't get as much in Spring if we have decent rain in August which also follows along that line.
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Post by neptune 21st October 2015, 12:27

Balinbear wrote:I was talking to someone at our garden day about it and he said that the Adelaide Uni (I think that is who he said) did some tests using all the chemicals, milk etc and they found that most effective control of powdery mildew was to hose the plants with water a couple of times a day to wash the spores off.

This is in line with an old rose grower who recommended in a book (not sure which one) that overhead watering in the afternoon was the best method of control which is completely opposite to the normal recommendations so far as watering goes.
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This is what I have been saying for years on here....so glad the Uni agrees with me....Smile
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