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Post by Ausrose 20th June 2013, 11:31

This thread is in response to a suggestion from betsyw and Happy roses on the thread Novelty roses. White Spray was Grand Champion 2013 NSW Championships Day 3 Sydney Royal Easter Show and Pink Parfait  was the Grand Champion RAS Show Day 2. Both these units are floribunda class 1 to 25 blooms. This class wins more Grand Champion ribbons than any other class. 


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Post by Ausrose 21st June 2013, 17:32


One of the popular show classes in NSW is the bud to full bloom.This bud to full bloom was Grand Champion at the Illawarra Regional Rose Show in 2010 shown by the African Queen.The rose is Joyfulness.[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]



Bud to full bloom is to represent a rose of the same cultivar at four stages of its development and shall consist of four stems.    
1st Stage: Bud to show colour, petals not starting to unfurl, sepals                                                to be disregarded
2nd Stage:Midway between 1st and 3rd stage
3rd Stage: As in an Exhibition Rose
4th Stage: Either full or open according to the cultivar


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Post by SueH 22nd June 2013, 13:13

Oh ausrose! These are beautiful.  I particularly like Joyfulness.  I probably wrong, (a green stick!), but is Joyfulness an older variety of rose?  I think I have memories of my father growing this rose, but, as I said, I'm probably wrong!  SueH.

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Post by betsyw 22nd June 2013, 15:43

Splendid, splendid roses. What's the dazzling white one? I looked up "White Spray" on HMF in case it was the actual name of the variety, but I think not.
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Post by maree 22nd June 2013, 18:31

White Spray is a parent of other roses i think , is that right Ausrose ? Beautiful roses !!
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Post by The Lazy Rosarian 23rd June 2013, 06:14

Sue, here is a link for Joyfulness,
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Post by Ausrose 23rd June 2013, 06:43


White Spray (Description Modern Roses 12)
Registered Name: 'White Spray'  
ARS Approved Exhibition Name: White Spray

F, w,1968, LeGrice; bud creamy white; flowers pure white, well-formed, small, double, borne in clusters, moderate fragrance; recurrent; stems long; vigorous, compact growth.
[seedling × Iceberg]


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A vase of 3 cuts or stems Decorative Roses (Duet) Grand Champion 2013 Goulburn City Show exhibited by Rosalie and Chris Vines.

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Post by betsyw 23rd June 2013, 07:46

This is the White Spray HMF threw at me :
Bred by [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] (Belgium, 1980).
Introduced in Belgium by [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] in 1980 as 'White Spray'.

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White or white blend.  Mild fragrance.  4 to 11 petals.  Average diameter 0.75".  Small, single (4-8 petals), cluster-flowered bloom form
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Post by The Lazy Rosarian 23rd June 2013, 08:08

Could it be the one by Le Grice,
White Spray 
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Post by Ausrose 23rd June 2013, 08:43

The White Spray in the photo is the LeGrice one.

This giving roses the same name has whiskers on it and leads to confusion as we have experienced.

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Post by SueH 24th June 2013, 13:01

Thank you roseman.  Great site.  Will wonder around it with pleasure.  It is the rose my father grew.  Brings back many happy memories! Sue.

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Post by SueH 24th June 2013, 13:02

Oh ausose.  What a lovely photo.  I've just bought a "Duet" rose bush, so was delighted to see it in all its glory! Sueh

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Post by betsyw 24th June 2013, 14:09

Ausrose, how/why did you select White Spray to pursue as a winning white? So many whites to choose from, and you put your time into this one. It (and the arrangement) is drop-dead gorgeous, an unassailable winner,  but not as well known as other white varieties.

Just curious in the most positive way ;-)))
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Post by Ausrose 24th June 2013, 16:49

SuewH you won't be disappointed.

White Spray is a floribunda and the Grand Champion Unit was 1to25  stems or cuts of a floribunda rose. Another white rose that is eligible for this class is the more recent Fabulous as it is a floribunda.
Roses the like of Tineke, Pope John Paul 11 and Memoire are outstanding white roses but they are Hybrid Teas and have exhibition shape so they are show in the Exhibition Class. The champion of this class sometimes goes onto be Grand Champion.

This Pope John Paul 11 was champion exhibition rose at the Goulburn City Rose Show and was beaten by Duet, written about in previous post, for Grand Champion.

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Exhibition Rose is a rose, when half to three-fourths open, which has classic hybrid tea form: a high center with petals symmetrically arranged in an attractive circular outline.


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Post by betsyw 24th June 2013, 16:55

Aha.Florbunda.  Thank you Ausrose. I should have paid more attention to the not=so-fine print on the sash.
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Post by neptune 24th June 2013, 18:22

betsyw wrote:Aha.Florbunda.  Thank you Ausrose. I should have paid more attention to the not=so-fine print on the sash.
 
Here you are Betsy........this might help......Very Happy
 
 
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Post by Happy roses 25th June 2013, 07:33

Thank you Ausrose for sharing, it's very interesting on how it works, not to mention the eye candy...Smile
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Post by Ausrose 25th June 2013, 19:16

A class which is gaining in popularity is the Australian Bred class. A rose that has done particularly well in this class in recent years is Flemington Racecourse (Chapman). One of this magnificent rose's  wins  being the Sydney Royal Easter Show in 2010.[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

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Post by betsyw 26th June 2013, 09:38

Ausrose, if you also grow Chapman's "Mornington", how would you rate the two against one another?
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Post by Ozeboy 26th June 2013, 12:14

Keep us informed Ausrose,  really great to have your input.

You might even convert some of the members into exhibitors.

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Post by AutumnDamask 27th June 2013, 11:03

SueH wrote:Oh ausose.  What a lovely photo.  I've just bought a "Duet" rose bush, so was delighted to see it in all its glory! Sueh
'Duet' is one of my favs. The very first rose I grew from a cutting. Smile
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Post by Ausrose 27th June 2013, 21:20

betsyw - I bought three of Mornington last year and to date hasn't lived up to expectations  however it is early days. I will have a better idea come October. On the other hand Flemington Race Course has proven to be an outstanding rose over a number of years.

Ozrose - Although I haven't set out to convert any of my fellow posters to exhibiting roses some may find it quite rewarding if they enjoy competition.


SueH - Duet along with Baron Edmund de Rothschild are my two favourite Decorative Class roses.

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I have put this photo up previously however I thought it worthwhile to put up in this topic. The rose is named after Bruce's charming wife Joyce.Since 2010 Joyce Abounding has been reclassified to a miniflora.


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Post by betsyw 27th June 2013, 21:28

I am sold on FR. HMF reports a very good fragrance . Like the size and habit, too. Looks to be a good vase companion for Baronne EdR - so glad you love that one too, Ausrose.
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Post by silkyfizz 28th June 2013, 11:56

I have had Duet for quite a number of years and it has done wonderfully up until the last two years, when it has shown lack of vigour and fewer flowers. Could this be due to old age? (it must be at least 10-15 years old, maybe longer). I thought roses had a much longer lifespan. There are no diseases or other problems I can detect, everything around it is OK. What could be the cause?
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Post by Ausrose 28th June 2013, 12:13

Could be due to a number of reasons.I would look at:-

pH of the soil, curl grub, borer, glyphosate poisoning.

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