My Red Rose

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Try this one see if it works. My red rose out the back in flower yesterday.
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Tish I understand the frustration of wrongly labelled roses, I thought this was Black Beauty, but nowhere near as dark as I think it should be, also no perfume

I just bought a black beauty and it's about to open in a few days, once it does I can post pictures to compare if you like?
It's such a disappointment to get the wrong roses, I've had so many

Thanks tish that would be good

Whatever it is, that's a nice pic Tamara.

Hi tambralyngar

Almost there!

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The buds look the same, with the long green calyax, looking good

Thanks Rita

Thanks It's taking its time coming out though

It will be worth the wait

I did a little bit of research. Looks like there's 2 or 3 different types of this rose. I have a feeling that we have the top one

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Slowly getting there ..

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Tish I think you maybe right... I would like a red that is almost black like the one you have in your pic

That's black velvet (in my picture). They come out dark red in summer though. The darkest rose I have is Abracadabra (when it comes out not striped), which is part black beauty. See if you can order that type of black beauty. I'll take a look.

I think this is it, it has no scent though.

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Thanks Tish, does black velvet have any fragrance?

Sure does It's one of my favourites

Tamara and Tish, are we talking 'Black Beauty' or 'Black Velvet" or both.
Black Beauty is from Treloars and is a Kordes rose. I went and checked it's 'pedigree' a bit. In the "IP" listing "Plant Breeders Rights" it states it is a spontaneous outcome from a rose called "Frisco" which is yellow and none on close looking at it's parent tree has red in it, I think they are telling little fibs, that is only my opinion, Regards David.

Hi David, we are talking about both
I think they could be too. I can't see any yellow on mine. It's supposed to be yellow underneath isn't it?

I think the black beauty we both have is a hybrid tea. Is that right? And the other is what abracadabra comes from?

This is 'Black Beauty' Treloars sells this
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This one is 'Black Velvet' 5 nurseries sell this one
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When were the roses purchased ?

My black beauty is just dark red HT. However, my Abracadabra when it sprouts black beauty is completely different. The flowers are almost black and the petals are very stiff. It's very odd.

My black velvet is gorgeous, I was just saying she should get one of those if she's not happy with her black beauty

This is my black beauty opened

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Gorgeous Tish, even though mine is not s dark as I thought it would be I still like it, but I will consider getting Black velvet as well.(need to do a red rose garden now )