hybrid rugosa

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What's the parentage, Ozroz?

I wish mine would start flowering. I have some three years old and still no flowers. I love the leaves and I love rugosa roses to bits and I know they will probably end up remontant.. BUT... they are frustrating to work with when it comes to waiting to see what the flowers are like

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My OP 'Frau Dagmar Hastrup' seedlings are the ones that are three years old and still flowerless... great looking seedlings but alas... not a flower to be seen. I love the rugosa foliage more than any other I think. Noisette x rugosa sounds excellent! I've got hips forming on Rugosa 'Alba' from 'Trier' and 'Golden Chersonese' atm... with any luck I'll get some yellow rugosa On another note, I have found that the ones that retain the rugose texture of the leaves tend to be selfs. Nearly all of my modern x rugosa seedlings have followed the same pattern, however, there are exceptions to this on HMF. I did some 'Ann Endt' x 'Wild Rover' pollinations today too... looknig forward to harvest time already

This is one of my three year old Good Frau seedling... awesome foliage:

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This is my 'Scabrosa' x 'Gold Coin' seedling's foliage.... two years old and still waiting for it to flower. It's a miniature rugosa hybrid. David Austin did a few rugosa crosses where he inbred the F1 to bring the rugosa foliage back out again while retaining the double flowers.

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I don't think triploidy is such a bad thing you know. There is a good chance that triploids will have reduce fertility but this is usually only because of the chromosome count mismatch. There is also a good chance of it making haploid pollen which means it would make an awesome line of diploids and would cross well with other diploids. I also think triploids represent a good compromise between flower/plant size and vigour... half-way between diploids and tetraploids resulting is a better effect in the landscape.

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Have you got 'Comtesse de Labarthe' ('Duchesse de Brabant')? I pollinated CdL with 'Scabrosa' last season and every hip took but I was unable to get a single seed to germinate. I'd love for someone else to try this cross to see if anything can come of it. It think it would be excellent. A hybrid rugosa might be just the trick. All my seeds rotted in the bag on me