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Feeding of Roses
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Feeding of Roses
To help gain consistency I have come up with the following feeding plan for the roses in the National Rose Gardens. This week and next week we are applying a shovel full of turkey manure to each rose in the drip line. We will then apply Sudden Impact for Roses in early spring, late spring, and summer then in autumn we will apply Dynofert. We normally apply 100gms per rose at a time and we use about 52 40kg bags to do the estate. In between I apply 1 litre of diluted worm liquid to each rose each six weeks. This alone ensures wonderful blooms and plants which are healthy and resist pests and diseases. We normally only spray with organic sprays.
The turkey manure is aged and well composted.
Hope this generates some comment
Dennis
The turkey manure is aged and well composted.
Hope this generates some comment
Dennis
dennisd- Number of posts : 73
Age : 77
Location : Braidwood NSW
Registration date : 2013-08-20
Re: Feeding of Roses
Well, a big thanks for that Dennis! Very clear - much appreciated. Please tell a novice, what is Dynofert? Presumably a fertilizer of some sort, but I've never heard of it.
SueH- Number of posts : 737
Location : Melbourne, Vic
Registration date : 2013-06-06
Re: Feeding of Roses
Sue,
Dynofert is similar to pelatised chook poo but with trace elements added. It has a very low NPK reading.
Dennis
Dynofert is similar to pelatised chook poo but with trace elements added. It has a very low NPK reading.
Dennis
dennisd- Number of posts : 73
Age : 77
Location : Braidwood NSW
Registration date : 2013-08-20
Re: Feeding of Roses
Well you got me with Dynofert...couldn't find it anywhere, till I found it was spelt "Dinofert".......you had me there for awhile....is the turkey manure a substitute for chicken manure. I have never seen it here or on sale here. What substitute would you use instead of Turkey manure? I noticed that you use only organic fertilizers......do you use any chemical ones to top up all the different trace elements(if so which product) or just what you have stated above
neptune- Number of posts : 2450
Location : Western Australia
Registration date : 2010-06-26
Re: Feeding of Roses
Neptune,
Sorry about the spelling of Dinofert? I thought it was Dyno maybe I have been too long working with cars....
In addition to all the information I have provided we have taken soil samples from each rose bed and had them analysed so that we can correct any problems.
Turkey manure is very readily available near us at Goulburn NSW so we use that and it is old and well composted. Chook poo can be a real problem if too fresh due to the amonia content?
Dennis
Sorry about the spelling of Dinofert? I thought it was Dyno maybe I have been too long working with cars....
In addition to all the information I have provided we have taken soil samples from each rose bed and had them analysed so that we can correct any problems.
Turkey manure is very readily available near us at Goulburn NSW so we use that and it is old and well composted. Chook poo can be a real problem if too fresh due to the amonia content?
Dennis
dennisd- Number of posts : 73
Age : 77
Location : Braidwood NSW
Registration date : 2013-08-20
Re: Feeding of Roses
Neptune, Forgot to add that most manures are ok, sheep horse, cattle, but get old manures and then pulverise in a mill or just with the back of a shovel. Using a normal garden chipper and dry cow manure gives you fluffy stringy well air-ated manure which roses love.
Cheers
Dennis
Cheers
Dennis
dennisd- Number of posts : 73
Age : 77
Location : Braidwood NSW
Registration date : 2013-08-20
Re: Feeding of Roses
Dennis, I've bought Rooster Booster. The NPK reading is 3.2.2. This was discussed in another topic and the guys here told me is was fine to use. So I suppose it really quite like your turkey fertilizer(?).
SueH- Number of posts : 737
Location : Melbourne, Vic
Registration date : 2013-06-06
Re: Feeding of Roses
Sue,
Rooster Booster sounds very similar to Dinofert from memory it is 2.5 2 2 but it is the fact that the nutrients are readily available to the plant that matters. You would find similar ratios on most animal manure based fertilisers.
Cheers
Dennis
Rooster Booster sounds very similar to Dinofert from memory it is 2.5 2 2 but it is the fact that the nutrients are readily available to the plant that matters. You would find similar ratios on most animal manure based fertilisers.
Cheers
Dennis
dennisd- Number of posts : 73
Age : 77
Location : Braidwood NSW
Registration date : 2013-08-20
Re: Feeding of Roses
Dennis , I understand about the availability of nutrients to plants, but how do you tell from a packet of fertilizer the availability to the plant.........
neptune- Number of posts : 2450
Location : Western Australia
Registration date : 2010-06-26
Re: Feeding of Roses
Neptune, Without a huge amount of research and relying on memory alone, organic fertilisers with low NPK ratios are more readlily accepted to the plant than inorganic fertilisers with higher NPK ratios. So to answer your question try to look for low NPK with animal manure base.
Cheers
Dennis
Cheers
Dennis
dennisd- Number of posts : 73
Age : 77
Location : Braidwood NSW
Registration date : 2013-08-20
Re: Feeding of Roses
Thanks Dennis for that.....that information I have never read in books ......vital...
neptune- Number of posts : 2450
Location : Western Australia
Registration date : 2010-06-26
Re: Feeding of Roses
I have been using Manutec Rose Special and have had great results in the past.It has added blood & bone, Iron, Potassium and Trace elements and NPK of 9.7 - 4.32 - 12.7 plus T.E.
dannyboy- Number of posts : 472
Location : Victoria
Registration date : 2012-06-04
Re: Feeding of Roses
Dannyboy, I use Manutec for Orchids on my azaleas! Apparently, they love the same acidity as orchids! Getting back to low NPK, I haven't used the Manutec for roses. Do you think it is better than Sudden Impact? (Or am I barking up the wrong tree? LOL)
SueH- Number of posts : 737
Location : Melbourne, Vic
Registration date : 2013-06-06
Re: Feeding of Roses
I have had good results with it Sue.It has the added blood and bone organic and higher potassium then under rose fertilisers.
dannyboy- Number of posts : 472
Location : Victoria
Registration date : 2012-06-04
Re: Feeding of Roses
Rang up Dino Fert in NSW and what a surprise ......no outlet here in WA unless I want to buy a whole pallet plus $400 per pallet cartage.....can't see it happening....
neptune- Number of posts : 2450
Location : Western Australia
Registration date : 2010-06-26
Re: Feeding of Roses
Thanks for the info Dannyboy, much appreciated.
Neptune - why don't you buy some chooks and start your own outlet in WA!
Neptune - why don't you buy some chooks and start your own outlet in WA!
SueH- Number of posts : 737
Location : Melbourne, Vic
Registration date : 2013-06-06
Re: Feeding of Roses
chooks!.....is something we don't have a shortage of......
neptune- Number of posts : 2450
Location : Western Australia
Registration date : 2010-06-26
Re: Feeding of Roses
Weeell ........ what are you waiting for? As it was my suggestion, I'll be expecting a commission!!
SueH- Number of posts : 737
Location : Melbourne, Vic
Registration date : 2013-06-06
Re: Feeding of Roses
actually neutrog are planning to open up a plant here.....they are trying to round up all the chook farmers under their umbrella...
neptune- Number of posts : 2450
Location : Western Australia
Registration date : 2010-06-26
Re: Feeding of Roses
Paul, from memory I think it is 15ml per litre not much and wow does it make a difference to roses. They just love it. I will check when I get to work on Thursday so I can be more accurate.
Cheers
Dennis
Cheers
Dennis
dennisd- Number of posts : 73
Age : 77
Location : Braidwood NSW
Registration date : 2013-08-20
Re: Feeding of Roses
Can one buy worm liquid? Like, you know, in a bottle?(Neptune, king of homemade magic gunk, avert your eyes)
betsyw- Number of posts : 1340
Location : Lower Hunter
Registration date : 2012-05-01
Re: Feeding of Roses
Powerfeed id a excellent liquid fertiliser and soil conditioner.
dannyboy- Number of posts : 472
Location : Victoria
Registration date : 2012-06-04
Re: Feeding of Roses
Betty ...check gumtree on line ....I see a few people over there are selling it....also check worm farmsbetsyw wrote:Can one buy worm liquid? Like, you know, in a bottle?(Neptune, king of homemade magic gunk, avert your eyes)
neptune- Number of posts : 2450
Location : Western Australia
Registration date : 2010-06-26
Re: Feeding of Roses
A big thank you to you Neptune for that info! I've just started my own worm farm, but of course, it will not be productive for a while.
SueH- Number of posts : 737
Location : Melbourne, Vic
Registration date : 2013-06-06
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