Tea Baby

Hi Folks

First baby photo of our first new tea.

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Open Polinated seed from a Comtesse de Labarthe. Possibly crossed with WR Smith as that is close by. Has its mums perfume. Small flower but is its first.

All I have to do now is to keep it alive.

Well done Gary, looks more mauve than pink, will look forward to see it matured.

Hi Bruce.
Yes it is whiteish with mauve on the tips. Almost identitical to an OP Camelia we grew from seed except this baby has more petals.

Hi Gary; your little Tea baby will turn into something nice,when I look at the centre of the bloom I can see where stigma's suppose to be are replaced by green growths. When you get a Tea or Noisette eg. crossed with a modern, there is abit of ploidy conflict and this type of growth occurrs . Do you have any modern roses sniffing around, I know you like the oldies, Gloir De Dijon?.

Gary, I love your baby photo. She is a cutie with her pretty mauve tips .
She looks like she will be a little smasher,

Well done Granddad.

Warren

We don't really have any "moderns". A few Alister Clark's are the closet thing to moderns in the vicinity of the mother. Boarderer or maybe a Hybrd Musk.

I just picked the hip off the rose so it could be anything I guess.

We have never had any luck with Gloir De Dijon.

Here is Baby Number 2

OP from Mme Lambard Quite a good grower (better than baby number 1 that lost its leaves when I fertilised with too strong a mix but it is recovering)

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She's pretty in pink

Gary the second one has very good form and will develop nicely, the growth looks a bit china?.

She is very pretty, great colour Gary.

Warren

Possibly Beauty of Glenhurst which is growing nearby.

They look quite nice. Good luck with those. I've never had any luck with Gloire de Dijon either.

Doing a bit of cleaning up on the weekend and found three more OP babies. One under a Mons Tillier, one under Beauty of Glenhurst and one under the Hybrid Musk Erfurt. Can't wait to see how these go. All were about 2 cms high with healthy looking leaves.

Our first baby looks to have failled not having grown since its first flower (actually has regressed) so am not expecting too much from it. I'm going to put it in the ground in a sheltered spot and leave it be. If it grows then that will be fine but I do not expect it will.

The second baby has had several flowers on it and is about 300mm high and spreading its wings. Its foilage is quite plum coloured and will post a photo when I get a chance. Definately looking more china than tea.

We also have one more that was a Mons Tillier OP (probably with Comtesses de La Barthe) that is currently about 200mm high and has a bud on it. Its a year old and whilst having plenty of foiage has never flowered so we are waiting in anticipation with that one. I put it in the garden when it did not flower and has taken a little while to adapt but looks to be growing strong now.

Gary, just a thought would it be possible to leave them in situ for say one year so they can establish, then move them. Whilst on another forum(roses of course) it was mentioned that pinching the apical flower out this will divert all energies into the plant.

David
I moved them out and put them into pots so I could look after them better. A couple of the spots where they were growing get quite dry in summer. I'll see how they go.
If I had pinched the flower out of the second one (the one above with pink flower) it would be huge by now. It's had a half a dozen flowers on it already. It had three on it at one time a month or so again. Unfortunately the rain ruined them so I did not get a photo.

No problems.

Must have been a good year for bees up our way.
After a bit of a look on the weekend I found another 15 or so seedlings under the teas/noisettes (Safrano, Peace 1902, Com de Larbarthe, Marie Van Houtte, Souvenir d'un Ami, Rev d'Or), 1 from the china Arethusa, 3 from a Boarderer and one in a stone statue of a lady with a wheelbarrow that we think is from the Blossumtime she was under for a while.

We are entering our dry period up here so I have potted them all up as they may have struggled without being looked after.

Going to be hard to not let them flower though. I will have to see how they are growing first.

Garry, I have some hips starting to turn red on my Penny Lane, and I don’t know what to do with them. Should I put the seeds into the fridge first or straight into the ground? Sounds like your Tea babies did very well on their own, so I thought maybe straight into the ground, but I’m not sure what would be best.

Jackie
I generally don't have too much luck with seeds. I have tried over the past couple of years and have a couple (baby one and two) that I grew from seeds. The rest that I found in the garden over the past couple of weeks simply came up from hips that fell on the gorund or were trimmed off and left on the ground.
I have actually never had them come up before so it has been a surprise.

Balpnbear, I enjoyed seeing and reading about your Tea babies, please keep us posted about them.

Thanks Garry, I think I might put half of them straight into the ground, seeing yours have done well without any special treatment, and the other half into the fridge first.
Gee, that was lucky that you got so many this year. Hope they’ll all do well.

A Surprise

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This popped up under a Mons Tillier. I shifted the plant last year and thought that this was just a bit of root shooting up. As the plant was one I grew from a cutting I assumed it would be MT and replanted it elsewhere. It appears that it is not a MT afterall.

Pink - Apricot coloured and it may may be a cross with Comm de Labarthe one of which was planted close by. Has a nice perfume the flower and is very like MT except it sppears to open up a bit more.

Gary, keep this one, when it gets old enough, could I please have a piece/budwood thanks.
I love the colour of it and 'parfume' to boot

Ah, love the colour and form, and look at that silkiness; I’m not one bit surprised this one came up near MT. Go MT, go, cover this world in silk, I know you can do it.
And it’s fragrant! LUCKY, LUCKY, LUCKY.
Can you describe or liken the fragrance, Gary?