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Tipsy Imperial Concubine
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Tipsy Imperial Concubine
Mine's a little lanky (too shady) and I'm thinking I might cut her back a bit. Since it is the season for budding I'd hate to throw away useful "bits".
Any takers?
Any takers?
AutumnDamask- Number of posts : 1360
Location : Benalla, Victoria
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Re: Tipsy Imperial Concubine
Thanks Autumn Dasmask let me know what I need to do. Thanks.
tambralyngar- Number of posts : 231
Age : 50
Location : Nambour Qld
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Re: Tipsy Imperial Concubine
Hi Tish & Tam,
To be honest I don't think the wood will be suitable for cuttings, I was thinking it may be good for budding. (I have no idea if it is easy to strike from cuttings either!)
Wasn't sure if the Tea Collectors (yes, that's you Simon and Bruce!) would have room for her in their collections...
To be honest I don't think the wood will be suitable for cuttings, I was thinking it may be good for budding. (I have no idea if it is easy to strike from cuttings either!)
Wasn't sure if the Tea Collectors (yes, that's you Simon and Bruce!) would have room for her in their collections...
AutumnDamask- Number of posts : 1360
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Re: Tipsy Imperial Concubine
Thanks Wendy wasn't sure which way you were thinking, still getting the hang of this rose thing
tambralyngar- Number of posts : 231
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Ours have never done any good. We had one a few years back that passed on after about 2 years. It strikes from cuttings ok and we had a few that we gave away at the time. We kept one and planted it out but it too did not make it. Maybe the lack of goit needed better treatment than it got.
We purchased another two a couple of years back to have another go as the flowers are nice. They have not grown much and don't flower all that much but we will see. They are in a better spot that the old ones were and I am keeping these ones fed a bit better.
We purchased another two a couple of years back to have another go as the flowers are nice. They have not grown much and don't flower all that much but we will see. They are in a better spot that the old ones were and I am keeping these ones fed a bit better.
Balinbear- Number of posts : 1459
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Re: Tipsy Imperial Concubine
Is it 'teas' Margaret talks about that sucker or other varieties
Wendy, has the wood your talking about flowered if so they "should" grow from cuttings and strike.
How much of the wood have you got to give away.
Wendy, has the wood your talking about flowered if so they "should" grow from cuttings and strike.
How much of the wood have you got to give away.
The Lazy Rosarian- Number of posts : 5191
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Location : Mudgee, NSW, Australia
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Re: Tipsy Imperial Concubine
Teas, Chinas, Noisettes, Polyanthas don't sucker on their own roots, and generally strike well from cuttings.
As a general guide to suckerers, although there are exceptions: most species (and close descendants) including rugosas and spinosissimas; spring-flowerers. There are others that are mostly well-behaved while the main bush is present, but if that is removed, will spring up from remaining bits of root, eg some ramblers including some understocks!
Some HPs and some Austins will sucker; I guess it depends on how close they are to their Old European ancestry, but I can't predict which ones. Many "survivor" roses are still around because they do sucker.
Tipsy Imperial Concubine is a rose that many people are ambivalent about - large opulent flowers, but most of them ball in spring in my climate (Adelaide Hills).
As a general guide to suckerers, although there are exceptions: most species (and close descendants) including rugosas and spinosissimas; spring-flowerers. There are others that are mostly well-behaved while the main bush is present, but if that is removed, will spring up from remaining bits of root, eg some ramblers including some understocks!
Some HPs and some Austins will sucker; I guess it depends on how close they are to their Old European ancestry, but I can't predict which ones. Many "survivor" roses are still around because they do sucker.
Tipsy Imperial Concubine is a rose that many people are ambivalent about - large opulent flowers, but most of them ball in spring in my climate (Adelaide Hills).
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Re: Tipsy Imperial Concubine
Margaret = more info please, how do you think it might grow out west of Sydney at Mudgee
The Lazy Rosarian- Number of posts : 5191
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Out of my depth here! I think it would ball in damp conditions, because it has so many petals, which would stick together when damp; similar to Souvenir de la Malmaison.
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I've found the first flush are inclined to do so. The later blooms open fine. I need to shift this one I have to a better location. Breeze is a must (=gale) and I found that with my Souvenir de la Malmaison in a wind tunnel it doesn't ball very much at all.
The flowers last well in the vase too.
The flowers last well in the vase too.
AutumnDamask- Number of posts : 1360
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The flowers ball here as well.
Balinbear- Number of posts : 1459
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Hi,
the flowers ball here too.
Barbara B
the flowers ball here too.
Barbara B
Barbara B- Number of posts : 429
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AutumnDamask- Number of posts : 1360
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Re: Tipsy Imperial Concubine
Surprisingly, despite all our rain ours are flowering at present. Not that there are too many flowers as I think this rose takes a few years to settle in (if it survives).
We have had more flowers this year than last but the plants are not all that larger.
We have had more flowers this year than last but the plants are not all that larger.
Balinbear- Number of posts : 1459
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I tend to find that most of my roses take a while to settle in. But I'm doing better at my techniques when planting etc and getting more of a handle on soil requirements. (Unfortunately, "plonk in and forget" is not a good technique here.... )
This rose is in a pot and in winter I'll transplant her to a sunnier spot. I think her lankiness is not assisted by her low-sunlight-hours position. Have you found that windy locations are better for roses with a tendency to ball up? I've had very little trouble with those roses when I put them inline with the remnants of the roaring 40s from Tassie. (Even when choked over with grass my Souvenir dlM still doesn't ball up)
This rose is in a pot and in winter I'll transplant her to a sunnier spot. I think her lankiness is not assisted by her low-sunlight-hours position. Have you found that windy locations are better for roses with a tendency to ball up? I've had very little trouble with those roses when I put them inline with the remnants of the roaring 40s from Tassie. (Even when choked over with grass my Souvenir dlM still doesn't ball up)
AutumnDamask- Number of posts : 1360
Location : Benalla, Victoria
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Re: Tipsy Imperial Concubine
Wendy, thanks for your kind offer but will give it a miss at this stage.
Nice to know you have one if needed in the future. I have no experience with this rose.
Nice to know you have one if needed in the future. I have no experience with this rose.
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