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My 2013 Purchases

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Post by RosyTeesh 28th February 2013, 11:02

My 2013 Purchases today!

BLACK CAVIAR
ST. PATRICK
OKLAHOMA
THE R S L ROSE

Still trying to source Louis XIV, blue for you & ROUTE 66 as Treloars do not sell these Sad
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Post by betsyw 28th February 2013, 18:13

My first order this morning!

Black Caviar
Day Breaker
Augusta Luise
more Fragrant Clouds
another Firefighter
Red Cross
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Post by RosyTeesh 28th February 2013, 19:17

YES!! Black Caviar I am so excited for. Augusta Luise IS AMAZING! Give it a good year or so to establish but loves full sun and after all this rain mine is almost as tall as me and very bushy! It has to be one of my favourites.
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Post by maree 28th February 2013, 22:49

Well done there Rosy and Betsy , still got to put the rest of my order in yet , but thats three of us with Black Caviar , will be interesting ...
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Post by RosyTeesh 1st March 2013, 00:12

I hope it's a good one after all the excitement .. Lol
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Post by paulh 1st March 2013, 00:39

nice one rosy, looking forward to their progress
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Post by Ausrose 1st March 2013, 01:26

Can someone tell me whether Black Caviar is an Australian bred rose? With an iconic name such as Black Caviar one would be led to believe it is. With respect to roses named after after champion racehorses I do recall a rose being called Eye Liner after a champion 2yr old filly that raced in Queensland during the early 1960s. The rose was bred by Queensland hybridist Fred Armbrust who also bred the red rose Tania Verstak. Bred in 1962 the rose Tania Verstak is still available in catalogues today.

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Tania Verstak (Miss Australia 1961)

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Post by betsyw 1st March 2013, 04:02

Nope, not an Australian rose. It is one from Knight's stable of clients - Guillot, Harkness, Cocker, etc. I'm speculating that it's a Guillot Generosa, but everyone else can dismiss that as wild rumour-mongering.

What's with the sudden interest in the hithertofore unheard of (almost)Tania? Ozeboy has one, too.
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Post by The Lazy Rosarian 1st March 2013, 06:07

Betsy, I think I can answer your Question about Tania, Doug(Ausrose) is for Oz bred roses and that is what he is referring to I think.
Doug as for the name of a rose like "Black Caviar" it is pure marketing. As was "Tania Verstak" back in 61, but not to the extremes of today, I guess you could call it getting on the "bandwagon".
In the terms of "marketing" I think it is now called "value adding" to product.
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Post by Ausrose 1st March 2013, 09:58

With respect to the Tania Verstak rose my interest is a personal one as in 1961 I was in my final year as a student at high school and the crowning of Tania Verstak as the first migrant Australian was well publicised and obviously made an impression on me. I first came across the rose in the Adelaide Botanical Gardens in 2008 and later found it listed in Thomas for Roses catalogue. Last week I gave a talk on Australian bred roses to the Gold Coast Rose Society and the I mentioned the rose when I spoke of Queenslander Fred Armbrust and the 16 roses he bred.


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Post by The Lazy Rosarian 1st March 2013, 10:52

Childhood sweetheart then Doug
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Post by Ausrose 1st March 2013, 11:28

I wish. However I must have a thing about beauty queens as my wife is a former Miss South Africa.

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